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I’ve been a lifetime in a cell trying to figure this problem out.  I can’t sleep without thinking.  I can’t live without something beating in my chest or functioning in my soul and my life that says this: There is only one way.  There can be no dissension.  There can be no division; there can be no question about it.  Human beings are the problem.  And all life will be lost on Earth if you don’t deal with the human problem.  Human is the problem, people are the problem. The oil doesn’t hurt people.  It’s the people that are maneuvering the oil that’s hurting people.

— Charles Manson, 2009


The woman takes a spoonful of food, sticks it in the baby’s mouth and the baby would spit it out.  She’d pick it off his cheek and stick it back in his mouth and he’d spit it out.  I said “What are you doing, woman?” she said “I’m just feeding my baby.” I said “That baby don’t want that in his mouth, he’s spitting it out!”.

She said “Oh, he’s just playing.”  I said “don’t put playing on the kid, he ain’t playing, he don’t want that in his mouth!”, and I look at it and it said “Gerber’s Baby Food, lima beans and bacon”.  I said “this kid don’t like lima beans and bacon, try some of them prunes!”  He tried prunes and ate them right up!  And then the stuff he’d spit out she’d put to one side, and the stuff he’d eat she’d put on the other side.  And that baby wouldn’t eat no meat.

No one told him to be a vegetarian, he just didn’t want no meat in his mouth.  That’s pretty far out isn’t it?  That’s one of the reasons why I quit eating meat.

— Charles Manson, 2009


A war is not a holocaust; God’s war against man is a holocaust, not man’s war against man.  The reality of the holocaust is not in the movies.  The reality of the holocaust is with the dead fish that you see in the ocean.  It’s when you go and see where a forest used to be there’s a shopping mall.  Where a lake used to be, there’s a drive-in.  Where the freeway is, there used to be a creek and a river.

— Charles Manson, 2006

(Source:  MansonDirect.com)


I lived with a bug for 17 years.  Everyone hated this bug and said it was no good and bad.  It had no eyes, no ears and lived its life on feeling, alone in the dark, no help, no claws, no fangs, no defenses.  A helpless little bug.  I watched it and thought how this life form can find any joy, why this life would want to live.  I learned more from that bug than I did from my whole life before.

I fell in love with another life form.  That bug could feel what I thought.  I set for ten years with no books, no TV, no radio, nothing but a candle making things with strings and toilet paper.

— Charles Manson

(Source: Bug Letter)


All we say to each other can be true, right, and reassuring, but what good is it without ATWA? ATWA is like an earth ship and pollution is a hole in it and it is sinking as we are all playing ego roles of games that do nothing for ATWA. All live for ATWA or no one lives. All must have a one world government, money, army, all in order to bring order in fast and reset all to ATWA for life itself and all life support systems set in order, balance, and God's will. Real of it is who would want the job? No one, no one. But zero knows that without one there will be no one. Someone must pick up the one and that's what we did and it is running and rolling now. If a man stood and yelled all the names of all the bugs and bushes, wildlife and birds that are becoming extinct, gone from earth, he would be yelling all day and all night. Life is dying faster each day and there is zero, no one who will pick it up to try. The last people who picked it up to fix it was killed (swastika). Japan was running out of space and Germany's only got 15 eagles left and money cuts billions of trees each day.


Your planet is dying, and so-called humans can't forgive the kids of the 60s for trying to warn you to bring change, stop the war and turn it around.


When I seen the end of life on earth, I set a circle of love, and it set me; love for the air, trees, water, and animals.


I'm around and through time's face play. I'm not playing personality face play or fake phony games of bullshit. I'm rolling to redeem trees and life on earth.


25 years in the real service of ATWA has been wasted by not giving Manson his rights.


The people sold your last chance to survive the holocaust (the ongoing destruction of ATWA). In short, the Manson is the same as it's always been. Manson is the man of god people always condemn and punish for telling the truth they never want to hear.


Ecology, ecology, ecology is god, for without it we are dead forever - no life on earth.


...God's coming is not for the glory of people but the kingdom of life and that's bugs, birds, bees, wildlife, trees, fish.


When you live for what others think, you're not ATWA. You're not alive.


WAR on the pollution, WAR on the problem, not war on life.


You fear Manson because he won't submit and play lies and faces with a bunch of fakes and phonies who would suck slime from scum for money, because money is their god.


Did you know that all the raindrops, rivers, lakes, all the waters of the earth is only one water. That all the life on earth is only one life.


Your society is so distorted that a sane man would appear like a mad man.


I live in all life and all not alive also because I'm not an I...the mind of God is in all life and under the snake is just a start.


How can you judge someone who's already all the bad and worst there is? It's like judging the dead. MacManson


We've got to start all over again. And that's what we did in 1967, we started a rebirth movement. I got out of the penitentiary, and I started all over. And I said, "I'm not going to break the law." And I did not break the law. What needs to be done, and the judgments that came from me, is on any computer that has any data that's substance. You ask that computer what are we going to do to stop those polar caps from melting? What are we going to do to keep those ozones in proportion? How are we going to save the North Sea? Why ain't we fishing? Why are all the seals gone? Where's the birds at? You dig?


ATWA has a karma of its own. Law's vortex rolls on pure survival. Anyone who has distorted my life with their greed or reasons for promotions, jobs, or excuses has distorted and taken time from the karma of ATWA and in order for ATWA to survive all balance must be paid to the perfection of numbers 666 or there just won't be no life. God is a perfect balance of all. Good and evil got little to do with it.


All the rivers lakes water is only one water --
All the trees and bushes are but one green --
All air is but one air --
All life bug fish bird dog cat rat are but one life --
The same order for Earth that the Germans started on for the new 1000 years.


You got X amount of time to save ATWA. People drive over you and stop you and pile rocks in your way and claim your efforts and soon your life time goes by and actors and rock and roll singers and TV people go Ha ha, the nut, mad man. Then slowly they begin to become aware of what you said, because they're saying it for money and they don't know it but they are using your thoughts and ways and they begin to realize little chance for life of ATWA as real. Did you ever see someone when they knew they are going to die? They run from it. Do you know what people will do in fear of dying? Fear of Vikings built castles. If someone cut your life so they could be a movie star and others seen him get away with it and they did it and others did it and then ATWA people see that the only life on earth has gone with that thought and it can't be saved in their worlds chamber and the dying starts and they see the only way to get back on track is to use that chamber as a whatever it takes and the actors see that and run over on agents and people that paid them and put them up to it and the pecking orders change. To me it's only a thought. The red ants and the black ants already ate all the white ants and they been eating themselves and the snake sees its own tail and the back ups start backing up. My most and best was worse than a perfect zero backwards into deeper than nothing yelling back at history's circles rolling death wish to time's play actors. Bottom line is anyone who sins against ATWA must pay it back or get on trains to the death camps or Russian Front.


The real strong have no need to prove to the phonies. Mac


The world’s coming to an end.  You can never look at God when you’re looking down at it.  You got to get under him and look up at it, and when you look up at him you’d be surprised what you find.  Want me to tell you what you gotta do?  Quit using soap.  Quit using bleach.  Quit using toxic chemicals to spray waxes on your floors.  Quit using light bulbs.  Quit using things that contaminate the earth.  Quit using automobiles; get you some little donkeys and little wagons.  Quit building things; quit cutting down trees.  Get all the way down up under that lizard.  Get up underneath that lizard and bow down to that lizard.  Because if that lizard don’t survive, whatever you guys do with that war don’t matter.  It might be better if you all killed yourselves, then maybe the lizard would survive.

— Charles Manson, 1992

(Source: Michal ben Horin interview)


When I got out of prison, I went up in the mountains and I looked around and I sat down and I seen the water all polluted.  I seen the trees being cut down.  I seen this concrete maze that man has made and it’s like I had come from another place that’s not the same place that you guys— that that world lives in.  And I thought, ‘Whose responsible for this?  Whose job is this to make sure that we got air here to breathe?'  Because we’re gonna run out of air here.  This whole planet’s gonna run out of air.  And I look at the water and I look at the way they’re misusing the resources and the water, and how they use tons and tons and tons of paper.  You got 200 million people shoveling paper all day long.  You think, something has to be done here, you know, to reach a balance to where we can have life on this planet.


You watch the people feed tons of grain to animals, then they kill the animals then eat the animals. Why don’t they just eat the grain and let the animals live? It don’t make sense. Why are they eating the animals? They eat flesh and blood then go to church and talk about “thou shalt not kill.” And they kill everyday with every breath they take. And you say, “Hey you got to stop killing the animals, man.” You gotta stop to eating the flesh. What’s wrong with you, man? Gee man!


I know and understand you are much more than what I think you are but first I must deal with you the way I think you even if that's only my own thinking and not you. Mac


Then I say the life they are killing is mine.  And then I go out, and they’re cutting a great big old tree down.  And I say, ‘Oh, I feel that! I feel - what are you doing?!  You are cutting me down here!’  And I say, ‘Stop cutting me down or I will shoot you.’  You know, if you keep cutting the trees down, I’m gonna cut you down.  He says, ‘Well look, I got a wife and kids and I need the money.  I have a job and I don’t know anything else.’  And I say, ‘Well, I can’t blame you. Who’s your boss?’  So, I go to the boss and the boss says, ‘I worked 20 years to be foreman here.’  And he says, ‘This is my way of life and my kids are going to college and I need the money.’  And I say, ‘Well, it ain’t your fault.’  And then I say, ‘Who’s your boss?’  And he says, ‘Ace and Ace Lumber company.’  So, I go to the Ace Lumber company and they're a subsidiary to a Rabiscapp company and 40% of that stock is owned by Reverend Sun Myung Moon; let me say Korea.  Then another 20% is owned by Bolivia.  And somebody else owns 10%.  Then Margaret of Malibu owns 10%.  And I go check Margaret out and she died 5 years ago and she willed all of her assets to the cats.  So, she’s got 300 cats living at a 10 bedroom mansion with a butler and a chauffeur, and everybody’s provided for life as long as they take care of the cats.  And the cats are reproducing themselves, so we got a legal lock on the trees.  And so the cats are walking around cutting all the trees down.

— Charles Manson, 1985

(Source:  KALX interview)


“Tho shalt not kill,” said my daddy.
Mother agreed, as she served a meat patty.
Who is the killer? Let me see…
It’s only Man, he’s you and me.
The Indian said, “Kill only what you need.”
But the White man likes to see things bleed.
Big man, taking trophies home to his wife.
Showing daddy’s daughter how he killed it with his knife.
Look at the big man passing to others his fear…
Look to the children, Judgement Day is near.
God’s love knows what I say.
Life in the loving along the way…
is the way, is the way.
Forget… forget, it’s better than learning.
Back to the start the world is turning.

— Charles Manson, 1971


Progress? There’s no such thing as progress, there’s only change. You dig a hole in the ground and you build up a city and you fight a war and you call it progress? You call it change. And its a beautiful game and its a perfect game. And whoever wants to continue playing General and going out and killing themselves, well my goodness— I wouldn’t want to play that game myself. But if they want to play it, I love them for it. If they want to go over there and kill each other. The only reason they are over there is cause they want to be. They can use any excuse, and they can say, “But… but… and… maybe…” But it boils down to, man, just one thing: as long as there’s hate in your heart, there will be hate in the world. You can’t fight for peace and you can’t capture freedom. And it’s just a simple old thing, man, that any baby can figure out if we didn’t put cancer in his mind.

— Charles Manson, 1967

(Source:  Universal Recording Sessions)


No matter what I get going they smash it until they are gone. Mac


Letters to Manson and Manson's Responses:

Mr. Manson, Greetings. My name is (name deleted) and publish an anarchist magazine called (name deleted). I would like to interview you for an upcoming issue. We could do it through the mail or I could come to you. If you are interested, contact me. I hope to hear from you. (Signed)

Manson's response: Anarchists don't help order. Most anarchists are people who don't fit. I'm one of them that don't fit and would like the freedom it gives to be an anarchist. But it sure won't help ATWA. Only the aware and fit can survive, but that's not good for trees, wildlife, and life in general. We must have ORDER if earth is to survive is one way of looking at it, and earth will survive anyway. Either way, we each see it as it is best for our center. My center is ATWA.


Letter from Scotland:

Dear Sir,


I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to go about telling people about the dangers on pollution. The reason I want information is this: For 30 years the U.S. Navy was based at the Holy Loch here at Dunoon and they left a lot of debris, i.e. petrol, toxic waste, and such like. Well the local council wants to remove it and some people including myself want it left because if removed there is a 75% chance of more pollutants than if it was left. So I would like to know how I could let these people know of the dangers involved and the destruction it would cause to the surrounding wildlife. I hope that you will be able to offer me some advice as I would be most grateful to you. I wish you all at ATWA every success in every project that you get involved in.
Yours Sincerely, (signed)

Sad as it could seem to some, fear is the big must. People have grown as big as God for they fear not. Not the loss of clean water or clean air. They sacrifice nature for a few dollars. Money holds and feeds on fears of little minds who for the most part have already been bought and sold and have no care about the nest or the crow or its egg. You could run to the deserts of earth and try to get back under LIFE as bugs and let the water's spirit deal with its death on the come for who misused the waters of all life. I started a new world with old ways made new in a rebirth in my life (world). I would need to see what you're saying before I could be real and right on. You could make a temple of covering it up for the next 50 thousand years and teach your kids to teach their kids to never open a cover up. People for the most part believe in no one or nothing because they don't believe in their own words. So your words would mean less unless they know and DEEP understand it was their life, not a T.V. show or vote for office or money mind selling tape recorder heads. Holy has great meanings, but people have unhooked the real’s real of the steel wheels that came from the minds and soul of Scotland and ALL ATWA. All the way alive. Air Trees Water Animals.

One World. One Body of people who want to live on earth. Some people will sell you hope and game you. Hope is for little minds without centers. Hope in one hand, shit in the other and its about the same. You could try to tell the people; I feel that would take one third of the people to be crucified and left for the two thirds to see and learn from. That's if you loved them enough to pick up a job that big. Or, run and let the dead find their own way. All men in their end (from my point of view) must turn to soulhome. My soulhome is all I know. Not what I was told. Hell man, there may not be a Scotland. More Scots live all over earth. I could spend a lifetime at Scotty’s Castle in Death Valley desert -- nice, sushine -- and start a new Scotland . TRUE it's been done over and over.
I sent off into the soul of Man. Scots have always been on the creative Frontiers of thoughts and life, pirates of the seas, bottom of prisons, and souls of rebels. I've been in prison halls 50 years and I've learned a lot. One thing is if you care they call you crazy and will put you in nut wards and even make you take drugs that drive you mad. Because when you or someone is real and has concern, others fear they may be called up to give and giving goes with living and dead brains don't want to be in a rocking boat. Fear holds people locked in World Wars.
U.S.A. is at war with all life in ways beyond most other countries. The only way to clean up ATWA is a one world trip. You can't stop cutting trees in one place and cut in another or clean up one river and dump in the other. You GOT TO THINK WORLD and if it's a power trip it will fall to more war and more discord. It must be in ONE 4 ATWA. Even in that thought there are distorted people who twist it and say it’s a race mix and we can only save earth if you give us the pussy. Then it's taken off for bunk bunkum.
Bottom line is I don't see people surviving. Maybe a few who got a new thing under the sea or deep in the earth with some kind of sub trip, and even that would be a time thing. People are destroying the life supports and you can't shake them. Show them death and throw blood on them and they will put a for sale sign on it and sacrifice a generation of kids for movies and T.V. shows. When one takes what should be done in real life and makes a movie, spends money for a cardboard set when it should of been steel and real, then the money's gone, and people got rich. The real slips into play acting. It's as if all the birds in the sky were eggs yesterday as all the old people were children and the acting has taken the real from the wheel. We are children playing the faces of dead and as I am timeless in soul I must be Mac Man Son, servant to life. Easy, Mac Manson


On music and what we talked about, music is like the soul from center. It's sound from the birth baby to the old and death and beyond. It hooks up life, death and all we don't understand. It is the universe on a level all its own. There are awarenesses hidden within sound just like programs within your computer. Easy, MacManson


New Thought from Conversations:

Ain't nobody there man. Just the air we breathe. It's the trees, it's the water, and the animals. If we don't save the air, water, trees and animals we can't have this love anymore. If our love is real and our love is true and our love is right, what do we want to run after someone and put it on somebody for? I don't want to put anything on anyone that don't want it. If you don't want it then fuck you. I'm not gonna run after you or chase you. If you're here, that's cool. I'll serve you. I'll be your best friend. I'll never lie to you. I'll give you all the food I got. I'll go hungry for you. I'll work for you. I'll serve you. I'll shine you, I'll comb your hair- anything I can help you with. I'll look out for everybody that you want me to look our for. I'll do anything you want me to do for you. I'll fight for you. I'll go to war for you. I'm in your will completely and if you can't love me that's on you. I'm already in the heart, but I'm not no weak mother fuckin’ punk that's gonna lay down and do what I don't have to do.


We don't have all that much time. We had the second World War. We could of saved it. We could of put it in order but there were too many fools who... now I have to turn around and take a different perspective. We have to overturn decisions in courtrooms of the dead. People have already died and retired and faded away and become nothing and left these damn convictions standing in our procedures and our laws and our governments that are controlling our very economies. And the court's got to balance with the war of the l940's, the wars of the Nuremberg trials.


irst Amendment of George Washington's Constitution says I got the right to say any word I want and I can make up any word I want and I got the right to carry arms and take my rights. When I can I will. When I can't I won't play like I can. I know I can and will but truth says only when I can, then I will.


C. ....now they're starting another penitentiary with me.... They just got a little circle suck they play with the racial balance. All that the penitentiary is is a big race game; it's a big racial balance. It's a whole world, actually, of confusion and bullshit.

B. You don't really have much in that world though, do you of your own mind?

C. I don't have any mind. I haven't had any mind since 1952.

B Are the cops giving you a hard time?

C. I don't have any trouble with the uniform.

B. Are they still taking your property?

C. Yes, they take my stuff, but they do that because the administrators are pushing them to do that. They make it look like they're really doing something if they can get over on me -- which they really are doing something because they are taking a chance. Everytime they come step over the line, they're taking a chance on losing it. And see here's the thing. It isn't necessarily me, it's the shadow. It's my shadow. I've got a very nasty shadow. My shadow is bad. Like the program administrator that messed over me he had an automobile accident and his little nephew went right through the wind shield. Then he came lookin at me like it was my fault. I said “No man, don't blame me for what you are doing to yourself.” So it's like when I used to make the dolls all the time, they'd come in a take the dolls and throw them on the floor and kick em out the door and then they'd go out and fall off a cliff, ladders would break and all kinds of bad things would happen to them. Then they'd come back and say “Charlie put a curse on me.” I'd say, “You put a curse on yourself man.” They said I had evil and I had black magic and I was an agent of the devil -- And then some of them just laugh at that. They got a lot of good people working on both sides of this game. That's what makes it difficult. If everybody on one side was all demons , you could understand it but it's hard to comprehend it because some of the guys are just phoney. They smile at you and laugh at you and as soon as you're gone, they'll sneak stuff in your cell and put fleas in your cell and do all kinds of crazy things. And then other people say you're weak if you let them do that. And then they'll back each other up, like the one guy will back the other guy up in taking your stuff and then he'll come back when the other guy's not there and say why'd you let that guy take that? And I'd say why did you back him up? He says well I back him up because I work with him. In other words they got all kinds of deception and deceit going.

B. Are there any that you've found that are without deception and are just righteous?

C. Yeah, but they are righteous for the wrong thing. They are righteous in the respect that they think that the law enforcement is good and that the courts are honest, that you must have done something or you wouldn't be in jail. You couldn't be in somebody else's field or you couldn't be getting somebody else's blame. They feel if you're in jail then you did wrong and the D.A.'s right. It's easier for them to think that way. There's a lot of people that have done a lot of bad you know. And how can you weed out the.... in other words if you got a pack of wild dogs then you got to take a chance on every dog that you're dealing with. So it's the same thing over here. It's like some of the cops come in and you show them decency and as soon as they don't have any fear of you, then they get macho. They get big like a motherfucker. Like the guy come by this morning and kicked my cell. I said, “What the hell you kick my goddamn cell makin all that fuckin noise for?” He said “I'm paid to look out for you.” I said, “harassing me is looking out for me? What are you pounding on my gate for?”

Same reason why they kill rattlesnakes. You know the macho motherfuckers that's got to jump on somebody or something littler than them. It's a pecking order. They're not happy unless they are picking on somebody.

They found the guitars. The captain said the guitars are here. Then he kind of gave the sergeant permission to give them to me if he wanted to but then the sergeant is afraid to give them to me because he doesn't know whether somebody else might say something. Now all one guy has to do is come by and say one negative thing and then that's the end of that. Then I have to go through another month or two of bullshit. I still want to have my property. In other words, I'm legal. They're not legal. I'm legal in what I got. And it took me 20 years to get it legal. Now they want to make it illegal. They want to change the rules. Fear makes the rules. If I was a big black guy and I spit on them and I cussed them out and shook a big dick at them, then they would love it and give me my property. You can see it like a little skinny guy comes in and he's in a cell, he might wait a month before he gets his stuff. A big loud guy comes in kicking and screaming man they run to get his stuff right away.

B. If they're so scared of you how come they don't treat you like the black guys?

C. It's a different kind of scared. There's a sneaky kind of scare with a pencil. They know I don't write notes, they know I won't snitch on them so they feel secure in that. Then another guy comes in and he's always writing notes and snitching and they're insecure about him. And then some guy is trying to prove something -- it's a circle. I got a woman in here who the other day -- people were pushing me and pushed me almost within an inch or two of her and she wants to flatter herself by saying that I didn't touch her but she could feel my breath. She could feel my breath -- imagine that.

B. Did she write you up?

C. Yeah, she gave me a l28.

B. Yeah, they read those on T.V. They don't read the details, they just say you threatened an officer.

C. Now watch this. here's what they do. They don't want me getting in the uniform so the bureaucrats who don't have a uniform will try to turn the uniform against me so they can control the uniform.

B. Why don't you keep totally aloof from all the madness that goes on in that unit.

C. You can't do that over here. There's about 38 people over here and the space that we have you could spit from one end to the other almost. I'm looking at about 25 yards here- it's a little triangle. There's a gun rail at the end of the triangle- at the top of the triangle there's a gun rail. There's 38 guys here and l2 tables with four seats on them. There are two showers and that's it. There's no chairs to sit in. There's nothing. Sometimes you have to wait for two hours for a shower. There's nothing you can do but be involved with everybody here because you're bumping into everybody here. They can smell everything you do, they can see everything you got. There's nothing you can hide from anyone in here.

B. Then you should never have anything you have to hide.

C. I don't. They make up stuff cause the cops give them attention. The cops want them to do that. That's what the cops use them for.

B. One of the Lts. told me that you interacted with a lot of these guys out of fear.

C. Much of what's done in here has a fear based mentality to it. A lot of the things I do is behind fear. It's not fear of them, it's fear of what I might do to them.

B. I know. That's how I used to be in prison. I always feared I'd just fuckin' kill somebody.

C. Yeah, there you go. So when the guy comes up, you say well am I gonna knock this guy out, am I going to kill him and go back to death row or am I gonna sit here and smile at him and give him a pack of cigarettes. Which is easier. I don't have the position to knock him out.

B. Sometimes I think you talk to much though.

C. Yeah I do.

B. I really think that's your problem because you talk so fast people can't process, and you say contradictory things and people can always use that to say your a hypocrite, you're a liar, you're a con man, you're this that and the other.

C. I'm all those things except I don't lie. I'm everything that's bad. I'm the devil....

B. But the more you talk, the more words you put out there, the more they can take those words and use them to support what ever they need to view you as.

C. All right now let me give you this secret, I wrote this to Red. Ready? If I'm not snitching and everybody else is snitching, they're only snitching on themselves to me. They're telling on themselves to me because everybody's telling.

B. Everybody is telling?

C. Everybody is telling. Except one. The One doesn't tell. They're all snitching. That's all this unit is. There like a bunch of little kids all telling on each other...... A lot of them will accept what a woman says more than they will what a guy says because they are locked to their mothers...... Everyone in here wants someone to love but they have no one to love because they dont love no one.

B. A lot aren't clever enough to hide their treachery. I mean I know everything. I can just feel it in a person's voice and everything.

C. That's cool cause I do to. You know everything and I know everything and then we're one. We don't have any problems dealing with ourselves. I don't have any problems in my cell. I'm alone in my cell and I can stay in that cell forever. But you put half these guys in a cell alone and they can't deal with it. They got to have a cell partner and when they have a cell partner, they're generally playing with each other in the darkness doin little things in darkness, sneaking around and playing with each other and cussing each other out over some little silly thing and tying to find fault in somebody else, why somebody else is no good and this guy's no good, that guy's no good. They got the heads of chickens.

C. All my life I've been the goat. It's a game that I play, I know that. When they come and blame me for something I don't get upset about it. I don't even let them know that I know what they are doing. I'll play it like it's all me and I'm all messed up so on and so forth. Then I use what's using me. It's like I learned the card game. If you're playing cards and you see someone cheating, you don't run and tell on them, you just put your cheat below their awareness and you cheat their cheating to where they're only cheating themselves. All these guys that are snitching on me they are actually doing me a favor in a lot of respects because now the cops aren't paying any attention to them because all they are doing is giving useless and worthless information up for nothing. So they're looking and saying well you know they are always telling on Charlie about something but everytime we go to catch him doing what they are saying there is nothing there. So they try to catch me smoking weed. There's no weed. No ones ever caught anyone with any weed. No one's ever seen anyone smoking any weed but someone thought they smelled some weed because they wanted to think that. It didn't matter whether they did or didn't they just wanted to think that And did they hear someone else saying something or somebody else said something and they got nothing else to do. There's no programs over here, they've got nothing else to do but feed on each other, to pick on each other. The library over here has about 30 books in it. The cops just came over and took all the clothes, all the handkerchiefs; took everything I had with the color red. I had a 200 watt light bulb -- they had to get that light bulb-oh that light bulb was really a big thing to them- that was New York city at least a thousand times to these guys you dig, because everything that we do, they have to eat our property in order for them to have something to do.

B. The feds are doing the same thing. They are measuring everything, they are taking everything- taking out the closets and they've taken all the personal property including most all hobby craft items.

C. Well I've learned this: that the inside is merely a reflection of the outside. And it's like they've got everybody's lamps that they read by. They got them all out and broke all the light bulbs. They stepped on them and threw the lamps in boxes and they're sending them out. Then they took everybody's hats. We're not allowed to have any hats. And every time they do that that means they are going to have a war somewhere else and they're going to start killing their children.

B. You all need to wear hats outside because the strong sun and the terrible air pollution can really damage people's skin.

C. I know it but the lieutenant will take a knife and stab the top of a hat and when he starts stabbing and cutting on the top of the hats and taking the hats, that means that there's gonna be war somewhere else in the world and they're going to take their young l8 year old kids and put them up on the beaches at Iwo Jima because we're locked in the Second World War. Everyone's just going around in a circle picking on each other. Nobody's got a head, not really. That's the reason I put that thing on my forehead because I know that we're locked in the Second World War. This whole procedure is locked in the Second World War and here's why -- are you listening?

B. Yes.

C. You're a very smart woman and I know you're going to understand this. When you take a soldier in a uniform who obeys your orders and does anything you tell it to do and you hang that uniform by the neck until they are dead because they obeyed orders, then none of your uniforms can obey orders. You got 6000 men hanging off the court room for obeying orders so they can't obey orders. If they can't obey orders, all they can do is pick on each other. Then every time they have a war and they have to bring their soldiers back and then they abuse their soldiers, then they spit on their soldiers. The procedure is locked to the Second World War. It's locked to fear and it's locked to death. In order to see that decision you have to go beyond all the fear that is in the Supreme Court of the United States into the martial law. That's the reason I tell everyone that I'm a United States Marshall because I can see through the chain of command into the death into the grave yards of the soldiers that gave, that martyred their hearts and their souls for our rights and our freedom. They didn't give us our rights and our freedom because the United States of fucking Jews took the goddamn fucking Germans and hung all the honorable soldiers. You can't do that. If you do that then that just locks the United States to do whatever the Jews are doing. That's why they had to kill 250 marines over there in Beirut. They blew them up. The United States of America blew them up. Ronnie Reagan blew them up. He had to blow them up because the Jews are in control of the United States of America. Not that I give a fuck, I got nothing to do with the United States of America anyway....

B. I thought that was one of those Islamic Jihad type attacks -- that car bomb attack that blew up all the marines?

C. Yeah, we landed on the moon in l969. You didn't see that? I'm a jihad. I'm a fucking holy war. That's what we were all about, have you forgotten that already?

B. No, you said Ron Reagan blew up those marines, I thought it was Islamic men.

C. It was the United States of America that blew them up. What are they doing over there?

B. Oh yes right.

C. In other words that's what I told this guy. He said, “You beat these people up and you tore this guy's eye out and you stabbed this guy and you threw fire on this guy and you did this guy” and I said, “Yeah, well I'm fighting for my rights. If you'd give me my rights I wouldn't had to do all that.” You're blaming me for fighting for my rights then you have to go back and blame l776 for fighting for our rights because our rights are still my rights. Don't I have any rights? I was born here in this country, don't I have any rights in this country? If I don't have any rights in this country then it all goes to King George.

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C. Well, It's abstract but you got to realize that everything was gone before we were born. We lost the war. There's no winning a war. Nobody wins a war. The war just goes on to another level. Now Farrakahn and all the half black want to be the supermen. They want to be the next Hitlers. They want to be the Fourth Reich in other words. That's why they just killed that little girl in Chicago. That's an old suitcase Brown thought where you take a little girl and cut her heart out and put it in a suitcase and take it down to the poker game and then you say, "You're gonna do what I say, I got the money here in the suitcase." The guy says, "You got no money," and he says "Yeah I do." He says, "I got suitcases full of money", and if they don't agree then he opens the suitcase and throws the little girls body out and says, "I'll send you to the penitentiary for murder because I got 2 guys as witness that you killed this little girl." So that's when they bring the two guys over here to witness against me and give me a 115 and play some stupid game because I'm running Super Chief out of Chicago because I ruled the Cook County Jail and the Juvenile hall because I whipped everybody there three times. That was in '54. My mother was only 14, that's what I'm saying. I'm already on the ground. Anyone that is keeping me locked up is in more trouble than they realize.

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B. Are they making you visit behind glass with the phones that barely work?

C. Yeah, yeah, they got all kinds of little games playing. They made a whole lot of mistakes on a bunch of papers and they won't admit the mistakes, so they blame it on somebody else and they blame it on somebody else and then they blame it on... Have you ever noticed that people will kick at snakes. Whatever they are afraid of, they're always trying to prove they're not afraid of it. They're always picking off on it or pushing it. Did you ever notice that?

B. Well, people will admit that they are afraid of snakes, and they'll just outright kill them.

C.. They're not really killing the snake, they're only killing their fear of the snake.

B. Yeah, but they don't realize that.

C. It's really strange how fear works. Fear can work for you if you're in a position to hold it. But if you're not in a position to hold it then it works against you. If you're in a position like the president of the United States or the king of Siam or whatever and everybody fears you then you stand a better chance to rule in a positive perspective than if everybody has no fear of you, they don't have any respect for you. But you got to realize at the bottom to have respect from everybody at the bottom, you have to fight everybody. At the top, you've already got it established. You call your men in, and you say, "All be seated" and everybody sits down. But at the bottom you say everybody be seated and they all look at you like you're crazy. I told them in committee -- we were talking about Chicago, I doubled up my fists and I showed them and I said, "Look in the county jail in Chicago I had to use this to get a blanket because it was cold and every day that I kept that blanket I had to use this and over in juvenile hall I had to use this and over in the train yard I had to use this and everywhere I've had to go I've had to use this and anybody that didn't do what they were supposed to do I had to put them in line with this so why don't you just drop all this bullshit and do what I tell you to do?". And they all went, "Ah well erah ro rah." I said, "Abide by your own damn rules. If you're not abiding by your own rules how the hell can you justify locking someone up for breaking a rule?" In other words, if you do something and it just don't make any sense to your own mind it's just a matter of time before you're gonna punish yourself for doing that. Like you have to live in your own mind. That's the reason that I said at the offset of all this that I didn't want the job of holding anyone to the truth. I didn't want that job, that's a hard job. You need the Marine Corps for something like that. You need a chain of command. You need Colonels and sergeants in other words those chains of command were set by wars, atoms.

B. But if it doesn't come from within, its temporary. You just have wars for ever until there is no more world left.

C. Now you see why I put that on my forehead. I seen everything was locked in the Second World War. The Second World War is not over. The First World War is not over.

B. What was the First World War all about?

C. That was the trenches -- my grandpa was the First World War. And my grandmother was the First World War. And my mother was the child from the First World War. I was the child from the Second World War. Each wave of children... like if you'll notice Bush went over and had a war real quick, then he came back over and started putting the kids back in school again, waving the flag and pledge allegiance to the United States of America. See my country is the one that's in my mind. My government is the one that's in my mind. My Death Valley is the one that's in my mind. My prison is the one that's in my mind. Everything that's in my mind comes under George Washington. George Washington is my father. Abraham Lincoln is the divorce court. Abraham Lincoln took all the principal and took all the fields of honor and destroyed them all with his money. It was materialism fighting spiritualism and the materialism won. The dream from the oppression of King George was overcome by the new of president George. The president George had the rights that he took away from the king of England and gave to the poor people. That's what all those.. Jefferson and Hamilton and all those guys did. They gave the rights to the farmer, to the man on the hoe, The hobo so to speak. He has the entrance into the court room. That's the premise of the Justice system that I was raised in. I was raised in the Justice of the Southern arm of this country. I was raised in Kentucky and West Virginia to believe I had rights in a court room. The Yankees don't have rights in a court room unless they have money to pay for the rights. They have no principal so that falls all the way now in this world to Zapatistas in Mexico. The Zapatistas are fighting for their rights, but the Mexicans are saying there's not enough rights to go around, there's too many people and we can't give everybody their rights because if we gave everybody their rights there wouldn't be enough to go around so somebody's got to suffer so you don't have any money so fuck you. So, the break down is those who have it and those who don't have it.

B. That's the way it's been in Latin America and all over the world...

C. But it wasn't that way when George Washington fought his revolution. His revolution was for the common man, for the poor people -- that's us, that's the heart.

B. That was in theory but in practice you still had the poor people very oppressed -- children were working in factories long long hours. If your parents died, you could go to a poor house and so on.

C. They still have all that today. Here's the point. I'm a poor person and I struggle up to where I can get the money, and I got my hands on the money and then they break all their laws because they don't want to let me have the money. So, then they'll lose all their money.

B. They're saying that your money came as a result of your fame.

C. That's what they think but what they say and what they think doesn't matter. Here's the reality of it. Do you want the reality of it? I earned that surfboard. I spent 22 years -- I come off the top of that diamond and that little girl in Terminal Island in l967. I earned my rights; I earned my position.

B. How did you earn your position, what did you do?

C. Well I whipped everybody in Kentucky, I whipped everybody in West Virginia, I whipped everybody in Illinois, I whipped everybody in Indianapolis, Indiana, reform schools, boys' schools, prisons all the way down. I whipped everybody in the county jail, I took the poker game in the county jail, I whipped everybody in Florida, I whipped everybody I was set out on the road to whip. There was nobody that could whip my asss except one great big nigger in the L.A. County jail and when I got out I shot him. He owed me one and I took it back. I couldn't have shot him had I not earned the position to stand there with that gun and put a bullet in him. You just don't shoot people because you don't like them. You got to earn that position. The spirit has to move that. God gives life and God takes life. And only God can give and take life. Now you can run in the will of God which is called the main line. You walk in the main line; you don't bother nobody, and nobody bothers you. Tex comes to me and says, "My problem is blah blah blah" and I say, "All right do do do." I says, "If I stand up for you, you'll have to stand back up for a brother later on." He said, "Alright help me." So, I stand up and I go get his woman back for him and I get his money back for him and I get his life back for him because he can't face that situation because he hasn't earned the right to face that situation. I earned the right to face that situation. The situation that I faced was my life up over their life so I took my life back. I said, "Tex, you owe me one", and he owed me one and when Bobby got busted, I told Tex, "Pay Bobby what you owe me." In other words, it's the dispensation of life and death that runs on the main line. That's the president of the United States of America. He holds the dispensation of this country. He holds life and death, supposedly, theoretically. But when Abraham Lincoln came, he destroyed that. He took that field of honor and gave it to a matriarch. So, when I came back on the set it was a whole different trip. I had already went through everything to get to the Angel. An Angel just don't fly out of the sky and land on your shoulder. If you haven't earned that angel, if you haven't earned that position you can't stand in that position to even see anything like that. Just look at the places we lived in- Summit drive, I was on the summit of a mountain when you came to me. Remember that? And you came from where?

B. An airplane.

C. There you go. And you are the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Angel. It's that simple. There's no in between, there's no slack to it and when the baby was born, I named the baby Sun Stone Hawk, and it was a new world. It was on top of the mountain on the summit. That's what my grandpa set me to. That's what my Uncle Jess set me to. My Uncle Jess put that bucket on my head and killed that pig and cut it's tail off and beat that bucket with that tail and put that tail in my hand and sent me over to Summit drive, sent me to the top of that mountain. So, when you came you took that. That was your thought because the world is yours. I'm just in your world. I'm in your world with your permission and I can only exist with your permission because if you don't want me to exist... (Tape recording says your call will be terminated in 2 minutes.) You just don't let me be born. When I'm born then I come into existence and I'm a part of you. I couldn't be anything other than a part of you and until I can reestablish a patriarch, and a patriarch is just simply the changes that it takes to bring a new world into order into a new change to a new little girl. That's what they're doing now with the X out of Chicago. They got a 10-year-old girl and they're going to take the rest of their heads off if they don't do right.

B. Wait a minute, whose got the X?

C. That little 10-year-old girl that just got butchered up in Chicago. That's that old suitcase Brown thought. It's a con game. It's a guy that used to work in the morgue and when girls would come in, he'd drain the blood out of them and put them in a suitcase and go run a poker game with them. He'd say this suitcase is full of money and then anybody that would doubt that there was money in the suitcase -- he said he was backing up the poker game with a suitcase full of money and then if anybody had any doubts about the poker game they took him in the back room and took the little girl and threw her out on the floor and said, "Here you stupid son of a bitch, I'll kick in any one of your fuckin' heads that I want at any time I want. Who you jacking off down here at the bottom of this pile of shit?" And people just don't seem to understand unless you cut their fuckin' nuts off and stick them down their fuckin' necks because if you try to talk sense to them, they say you're threatening them. I say, "I'm not threatening you." I mean the train track. If the switch is thrown and there's two trains gonna bump into each other and you go up there and you say, "Hey man if you don't put that switch back in order this train is going down that track," And they say, "Are you threatening us?" and you say, hell no I'm not threatening you." I'm the brakeman on the railroad. My grandpa 's a conductor... ("This call is being disconnected.")

B. Hello.

C. See, the people that have been claiming you and using you to keep me locked up and using you to take the president, the bottom half of the presidency and all that, that's all gonna come back on them and as it comes back on them the Islamic movement and the Jihad of the world is going to take full advantage of that because they're not stupid and they understand that each time a Christian makes a mistake that's not in God because God don't make mistakes. There is no such thing as a mistake to God. We play these stupid little asinine unintelligent fucking games called movies to entertain ourselves because we're so bored with ourselves that we can't stand ourselves we got to be looking at someone else's life rather than look into our own perspectives...("beep beep" -- C.M.'s first words are obliterated by the "beep beep" of the prison recorder) on a world body here on this particular thought..("this call originated from a correctional facility").. Listen. you're from the sky and I'm from the earth. You're blue eyes and I'm brown eyes. We come to a point in Angel town. L.A. is an Angel town. It's where all the angels end up sooner or later whether they be Islamic angels or Christian angels, all the angels mee -t- whatever an angel is. I'm not offering any interpretation. That could be devil's angels any kind of angels. I'm just using words to communicate a perspective. So, you and I meet as two worlds- two opposite worlds from each other. Even though, our souls meet in the service that has martyred the hearts of our men in our military, in our wars bringing peace on earth sooner or later in all the struggles that we went through since Socrates began his intelligence movement for the betterment of humanity. So all the perspectives that come into focus and try to make a reality can only be a reality if it's in the balance with God because God is the ultimate word that we use for everything and someone that don't believe in God don't believe in themselves because God lives within each one of us and when I go to court with the children of the 1960's like you and Squeaky and all them other people that doesn't mean that I am in that. I'm walking the line with you guys but I'm not interfering with your lives. If you decided you wanted to go somewhere, I'm not telling you you can't. I'm not asking you do you want to go with me. I've never asked anyone to be with me. Everybody that was with me was with themselves, like they'd say, "Can I be with you?" And I'd say, "Can you be with you?" And they'd say, "Yeah" and I say, "Then what do you need me for?" And they'd say, "We want to be with you", and I'd say, "Well, if you're with yourself you're with me because what am I just whatever you think I am in you and that has to be you and everything that you think I am." I try to explain to you about the railroads, how the railroads run. You run in the sky, you fly in the planes, you don't have tracks. I have tracks I have to live on. I have two big steel wheels that roll and these steel wheels that roll and these steel wheels that roll my grandfather is the conductor, my uncle is a brakeman, a brakeman is the guy that gets out of the train and flips the switches back and forewords. I was raised up with that big old railroad clock and I was raised up to know that if these two trains aren't on the right track and this switch isn't put in the right perspective at the right time, those trains are going to pile up and there's going to be a lot of people suffering. O.K.? So when you let Poland over here in the name of Rome and you got the Roman Catholic Church over here in your district attorney's office producing movies like Queen of the Vampires or Rosemary's Baby and they're projecting all that demonology and all those devils off into the minds of all those children who are running around in nut wards killing themselves in all kinds of different fashions and then they all come to me on the highway loaded and zoned out of their gourds asking me what to do and all I can tell them is what I've been told and I never told anybody at that ranch anything other than what I've been told because I wouldn't have any other way of knowing anything other than what I was told. So, I explained that to everybody and I helped everyone the best way I could, and I always held up one finger and I said I will never break the damn law, if I don't break the law, I don't have to come back to prison. Now if they can't understand that in English and they want to lie about it, it doesn't matter because I'm already two or three dead Cubans down on the beach in Acapulco when I was arrested by the sheriff for a shoe box full of Marijuana and he took me in and he said, "Have you got any I.D.?" and I said "No" and he said, "What's your name?" and I said, "I don't care, pick one." He said, "You're just a common dog." He said, "You got ("beep beep") you got mone?". I said "No." He said, "What are you?" I said, "Nothing." He said, "If I just shoot you, no one will know the difference." I said, "No tengo miedo. I have no fear of you man. Do your fuckin' whatever you do." He said, "Get out of my jail!" I said, "What do you mean?" He said, "Get out of my jail!! I'm not gonna feed you." He said, "If you break the law and I catch you breaking the law, I'm just gonna shoot you." I told him, "I accept that, that's cool- you catch me breaking the law, you shoot me. But I'm not going to break the law so you would have no excuse to shoot me."
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I've looked for home. I must be in truth to be at home. You can be true when you do anything for ATWA. If I say something and they don't like what I say they try to prove me wrong. Proving me wrong don't stop the cold wind. We seen it coming in the long ago. But they worry more about money than rain or tides, sunshine or the balance of the day. I got 62 years in one day. Charles MacManson


Manson thought from conversations from April and May 1997 -

C: About the guy that says the blacks are our brothers and sisters and thinks you're prejudiced against Jews, most Christians that are not reborn or they're semi-reborn or they're playing up underneath fear games, they see the answer as not taking any responsibility for anything in the past and they say be not of this world like they are going to die and go somewhere else, that they're not going to live on earth. Well, I'm not in that. I live on earth and my heaven is on the ground. My heaven is in the earth and on the earth, is of the earth. That's my mother, that's my woman.
B: He says what you perceive in your mind like a perfect earth, clean air and water if you see it in your mind and you feel peace within yourself then you can make it a reality on earth.
C: That's it. You think it in your mind first. I've got five sweat lodges trying to come back to the earth. I'm landing my ship on ground zero from Hiroshima Second World War trying to put it in perspective back with harmony with the nature and the earth and the people that were up on the problems that we have today back then and then the damn people of the United States went and stopped them from doing what needed to be done in that particular area of the world. We had no business in China shooting down Japanese planes and we had no business in Europe jumping on the Germans. In other words, the Americans, the so-called Americans since Abraham Lincoln, have fucked up everything they've touched. They've lied to the Indians, they've double dealt, they've cheated. All that karmic balance comes back on somebody. That somebody is the white man. The white man inherits his father's sins. He inherits his father's good parts as well as his father's bad parts.

Well, my father is Scotch Whiskey. My father is General Mac Arthur, my father is Richard Milhouse Nixon, my father is Irish and Scott. My father is my graveyard. I live in my father for eternity. I have no hates or fears toward any other people. But you can't play games on me and get my pussy by using fear and playing prejudiced. I understand the games of prejudice and fear. I love everything as much as I can. But I'm not out of perspective. I understand the order of all life and I understand that if this planet does not come to one world government with a one world economy with a base reality of ecology for earth, if we don't put earth first, we're not going to have any planet left. Now, any Christian that don't want to live on this earth they should get to heaven's gate as quick as they can. They should find any way off this planet that they can find in their own time because this is the last roundup. The kids are coming back again and they want harmony and they want peace on earth. I want my peace on earth. But not only do I want my peace on earth, I want my trees on earth, and I want my animals on earth.

You've destroyed a whole rain forest. This United States of America was a beautiful rain forest. All those dams -- those Hoover dams and Tennessee Valley Authorities that you've got running up and down the water, that's why the dam waters so fucked up now is all them aqueducts and those artificial lakes and rivers that they create for those shopping malls and to water their automobiles down. They've created an artificial environment on the planet with that industrial revolution and its killing all the life on earth.

If I have rights, then the trees have rights. Trees are living things just as much as I'm a living thing. Who has the right to go chop the trees down? Nobody has the right to take life. That's what the real Christian was about. The real Christian said, "Thou shalt not kill." Thou shalt not kill anything, soldier. Not a bug, not a bush, not a bird, not anything. If you take certain things out of the earth, you must plant a certain percentage of that back You give l0 percent of everything you take but the preacher jumps up and says no give me the l0 percent and he'll build another church. He's been taking the l0 percent from the earth that should have been going back to the earth according to the will of God. He's been taking it and telling that he represents the will of God.

I don't want to be obnoxious here, but you got millions and millions and millions of people with the same and with variations of difference and saying the same thing. I say just simply this: Heal the mind. And then work for the air, the trees, the water and the animals. And the people? Tough shit. If you want to live in my world, come and go through what I went through to live in my world. You don't just come get in my world. You have to do something to earn my world. I wouldn't let a lot of those people in my world if I had the say so about it. I don't have to destroy them like Adolf did, all I have to do is just say no. I don't want that in my world. I don't want that confusion in my world. You don't have to let those people in your mind. You let the people in your mind that are helping your mind. And your mind is the only mind. You are the mind. You are ATWA, you are the earth, you are the trees, you are the animals, you are everything. You are the child of God. That's the truth. Period.

You got to live by your own goddamn fucking rules in order to expect me to live by your rules. If you don't live by your rules then you got to live with the devil, so they're runnin' with the devil comin' back talkin' about how I'm supposed to be some kind of devil. I'm not runnin' from nothing. I'm not runnin' from no goddamn demons.

It's really funny but I can be surrounded by every kind of race you can think about, like all the Mexicans, they won't bother me, and all the other people don't bother me, but you let a white guy come by and he wants to show everybody how he's unafraid and he's not prejudiced. Like with shakedowns. They come and take all my property. They take my paintings. They take all the stuff that we had bought and paid for -- that we spent our money for, they take it and then they've lost it. They can't find it. "We don't know where it's at, we're sorry." What good is sorry doing? You got everyone else's property. They lost mine because they stole it. They've got at least 8 maybe l0 or l2 paintings oil paintings that I've spent hours working on and between Cindy Tigh they just took em. There is no rules. They do anything they want.

Let me explain this to you, soldier. All the things that create a man, that make honor, trust, truth, knowledge, and wisdom come from the mind of the English king -- Cambridge, Oxford -- all of those places. The schools of higher learning. We're held to that in our uniforms, in our chain of command. Primates don't have honor. They don't have codes of ethics. That's totally in the zoo. It's got nothing to do with my perspective or whether I'm prejudiced. That's the reality of the English language. I have a code that I don't snitch on other people. That's my code. Other people are not bound by my codes. Only I'm bound by my codes. I'm bound by my code and the people like me are bound by my code. Those other people are not bound by my codes. They can snitch and play any games they want. Then I'm locked up underneath my own word because if I give my word up my word is no good, I've got no soul. They're not locked up underneath any soul cause all they're doing is riding on what I'm doing to start with.

It's taken me a lot of years to wake up to those little things. I used to believe that when these other people got in a better position that we could bring change and for years I trusted in people that I only seen my own reflection. They knew how to reflect it right back at me in perfection, but they're not bound by the same truths and the same ethics and the same honor.

I went through all that in Vacaville and all those doctors already died and the last one I think he blew his brains out with a deer hunter in the parking lot but that still don't communicate because if everybody on one shift was dead, the next shift would crawl over their bodies coming to work because they don't have any minds without us. We are their minds but it's all backwards and they got their heads completely up their ass. They cut my visits off, they cut this off, they cut everything off and then they give it back to me and if I don't have it then they don't have anything to do so then they have to come in and take it all away and then give it all back and take it all away and give it all back. Every little ego that can get away with doing any little thing they can do.

Nobody, nobody gets away with nothing. Not in the long run. But the people in authority they think that they're gonna get away with just doing anything they want. That's what's happening to the country, it's all falling down. They didn't tell the people that they lost the Korean War. They didn't tell the people that Eleanor Roosevelt gave half the country to South Africa with her little bleeding heart. Thats the reason that Mandella's in power over there now because the woman would rather give up her ass than her head. In other words, if the guy threatens her. He goes out and kills -- like the Mau- Mau in the l960's, Jomo Kenyata went out and butchered up a bunch of Englishmen and then goes to the penitentiary, he picks up the cross and says if you don't want to die then you'll get in line and do what you're told and if you don't you're gonna get chopped up just like them other people got chopped up. So, the lesson of the cross is if you don't do what I say, I'm simply gonna crucify you. All that bleeding heart bullshit that they're playing is sucking high tit to the oriental mind because the oriental mind sees God and devil as being one and Christ as both. Thats the same thing as the Hindus and the Muslims. They don't look at Jesus as being a Saviour. They look at Jesus as being the devil. Because it's true, because Gods always the devil. Good don't have any power over evil. Evil has the power. It's the treacherous son of a bitch.

If they don't give me 115's, you know, nothing's happening. Everyone wants something to happen, but no one will let it.

People that are playing me out of the pocket are only playing their own lives out of the pocket. Everything they do to me just comes right on back in a circle.

It's not really a complicated thing. People that can't understand the children can't understand themselves because everybody's children play acting grown-ups. But they don't want to admit they are children play acting grown up. Some officer says "Well, what if he does have paints?? Is he allowed to have paints in his cell?" Well, no one knows who decides whether I'm allowed to have paint in my cell. I had a radio that recorded for 20 years. But I got here, and someone said, "He's got a radio that records." "He does?!"

As soon as they take everything away, they're all gone. That's the old fool on the hill. Everyone was blaming the fool on the hill until one day he was gone, and they all went crazy because they were the fool on the hill. So as soon as they take everything I got, they got to come and give it all back to me cause if I don't have anything they're not here. They're not there, they're just robots and the only thing they have is a fear-based mentality. And then even that is unreal. There's a saying that if you did away with the first watch and laid them all in the parking lot, the second watch would crawl over them coming to work because their minds are in here. They don't have any minds without us. I'll be asleep like in the morning I'll look up and the wardens at the door and four or five bureaucrats are at the door and everybody's peeking in the door saying "What does he do all day? What does he do all the time?" "I don't do anything." "Well , whats that for? How come you do that? What is that? How does this door open?" I said "Jesus Christ man, you're the warden and you don't even know how the door opens!" It's just beyond sanity man. It doesn't even exist. And everyone is drawing their little pay checks. And these people sign memos and then they all retire. They need someone to break the law. They need someone to cause troulble. They got to have it. They got all them uniforms and all them guns and all that stuff.

It hasn't got anything to do with the physical, the big battle is for the metaphysical -- for the universe, what I call a l2l7. The l2l7 is the ATWA ship. If there's going to be any life on earth it will be ATWA. I've already got it. I've already landed. Peace.

I'm not gonna visit if Donati and Reid are there because they got all kinds of deceit and deception and all kinds of little ego trips that they are on and they want me to lock up in a cage -- they want me to come under their key. They beat me out of photo duckets, they bitch about glasses -- little old petty shit. It's not really worth the trip and the trouble because it does them good for us to visit so if I'm doing them good, why should they be slamming me down? It don't make sense, it's like me beating myself in the head. I don't mean to put you in a category, but you are an honest guy and a tax paying citizen, and all those people work for you and you're supposed to tell those people what to do. If I was in your position, I would get up on the horn to someone and I'd tell 'em "You know what, man, I'm tired of supporting this incompetence. All we seem to end up with is the loose end of all the insecurity that turns into harassment for my client." Like, uh, you're my lawyer. All you have to do is put it up there and say "Look, our money is being spent here. We've got a 200-million-dollar facility over here and it's run by grasshoppers." I'm not trying to intimidate; I'm just trying to make it right. If I can get it right, I can get my goddamn rights with it and then I don't have to tolerate this goddamn fuckin ego trip that these people bring to work with them. They don't get paid to bring their personalities over here to play games with me. Again, they let me get property and then they take it so that they can feel like they are big men.

If you stand in the uniform, you do as you're told in the uniform. You don't exercise your individuality because if everybody in the uniform brings their individuality to work, that plasters me on the wall. That destroys me all the way down to the chapel where I'm hanging on the cross. Now being the trickster that I am I run a poker game behind that cross. And I do what I want behind that cross where no one can touch but me and my brotherhood. You want that respect. You have that coming. You earned that. Your fathers earned that. The graveyards with your family buried in them earned that. At least, that's the way I see it. From this side I don't have that authority. I have the thought and the mind of it, but I don't have the authority of it.

These guys wear coveralls and they're always in a military maneuver doing some stupid thing with Geiger counters looking for knives -- they got to have something. They're youngsters. A lot of them don't know. They're just being led around by the egotistical ding dongs that had a few years at San Quentin. Like they got a few years from the old convicts so they're impressing all the youngsters of what they think about the old convicts, you know, and then they come say "Well you can't have them kind of shoes, they're the wrong color." Or you can't have shoes unless they have shoelaces. Or you're not allowed to have a towel that color. You know those beads that you got? Well, I made those out of toilet paper. And I spent about 3 years just meditating. Those are my meditation beads. I used different colors, and I covered them with wax. They deemed that as contraband. And then little Mickey mouse things that don't really have anything fucking significance, like, they are big war tools or something.... And there is no authority here to deal with it because all the authority that could of dealt with it was sucked up by the primate. The primate minds. If it goes beyond that it's just not established- it's got to be wrong. So, anything that's new has got to be against the rules and then you got to go through 9 counts of nut wards and insane asylums and doctors and medication to make another word. A.T.W.A. Then you make another word, and everybody wants to get over in that word and say that they made it up, that it their word and that they're doing it and they're selling this and they got and then when the batteries run down, they run and shake down my cell and take my radio. I had a real nice radio I got from Mexico City.


Thought from letters and conversations -

If I stop and do what I should do I can't get to what I'm doing.

It's right in the transcript. I said you can't just go into the penalty phase, you got to give me a trial, you got to give me a defense. If you take my right to represent myself then what's a defense? You already took my rights. It's like I knock you out, then I say why don't you come out for the 3rd round? Because you were knocked out in the 1st and 2nd round, so how could you come out? Handcuffed and in back room with speaker and no wire. Tell public he has a speaker - but it wasn't hooked up.

In itself the soul wants to be one with itself as all. It will stand and defy all but itself and itself will not put up with, or contend with, any who won't submit. God is a selfish, self-centered brat and don't need or want any other points of view. Buddhism will take young people in play, and they spend a lifetime keeping the same point of view. A will from God from a point of view makes a world war if it's to kill all who won't give in and give up to it. Or a new religion or the rebirth of an old religion.

Everything falls apart with no rights. If you take the rights away from one person, it's just a matter of time before the whole thing is gone. They have no justice, no authority.

Watching TV is like looking at another world that did die long ago before it was born. It's only a thought bought and sold - a jar full of junk.

Start over each day. The rivers are veins of our body, trees are hairs on our heads, the air our breath. All movements that passed before in forever are our movements. Our activities are the moves of nature, the clouds that carry our water - are the hats and cover our heads. The days and nights we wear draped over our shoulders in colors of light. From the darkest holes of prison my eyes have seen the stars of the universe. In the soul's struggle to freedom I've transcended all them stupid personality games that you keep playing with the ghost of your mother's reflections from some world I died for a few times in other chambers beyond where you all left me hanging as most never realized I've always had a lot of heads I've been running in and out of, on and off the crosses of life in more than one head could carry.

Dennis Wilson was killed by my shadow because he took my music and didn't pay me and changed the words from my soul sound songs.

People for the most part are already dead in their mothers' minds' fears doubts and confusion.

Books and media have lied about CM as do all the walking dead who feed on other peoples lives because they have too much fear to live their own.

Everyone's God and it all comes and goes into itself and that's forever. Everyone wins because there is no lose or win -- it's all a joke. Can't go anywhere when you're already there. You can't win or lose when you step from the game and see the bigger game.

CM has been kept in the hole and in handcuffs for over 25 years. They bend rules and make laws out of fear of blacks and others and down the white.

Music comes from the soul. It's our god, our religion.

The district attorney sold your generation's chance to survive for his bank account.

You figure the president of the US stands up the marines at attention, stands the navy up to attention, and the air force up to attention. The Shah of Iran does the same thing. The King of England stands all the English soldiers up to attention. Then you imagine that Manson is ten of those.

People still focus on WWII, yet to them it was a big movie, and they will watch 791 species go like it was produced and directed for fun.

Here is my deepest shame. How could a wave of kids give their lives, and the next wave of kids condemn them without a real trial, a real court in a court, not a circus by the press?

Brother is honor. I will believe in it forever. Without honor we are pus sacks filled with shit.

One of our world problems is movies and rock and roll stars. They will do anything to play act the lives of and then cheat and claim the efforts of others, steal their music, have them locked up in nut wards. My whole life has been played off by actors and such. We tried to bring ATWA into minds play for survival of life, but the people sold it out for greed and money systems and destroyed their worlds. They will end up with no soul, no trees, no wildlife, no air or water. It's just a dream and God is the mind or the way we see, hear, taste, and feel. Try to understand all is one and only one can fix earth.

Is your way of life worth all the water and air? Without water and air everyone will die, so why are you killing everyone with lies? They will not say we are wrong, wrong, and we must start over. They will say it's all Manson and his family's fault. They keep me dying because I'm a white man. No one helps the white man. Others only help the white people they can use. White people are in a lot of fear and white people lie and they're all caught up in and with lies and they don't help each other. In real they destroy other white people who they feel may let little kids like you in on the truth. They obey their fears of race before the rules of right or fairness.

Your society is so distorted that a sane person would appear like a madman.

Life feeds from the breast of life and the water of earth starts with mother earth, not mama schoolbook book brain.

Check this. 24 years your systems have tried to destroy me with lies, fear, guilt, and sins not my own. You didn't do it. Now what if I sent that will thought back to you and I sent all the deceit, fear, and confusion back to you. If I wanted to invoke the underworld of crime and street justice with all the thought chambers given to me from 3 death rows. Do you know how to stop a thought once put in motion? If I say 1, 2, 3 it goes on and on. What I say is new.

Actors and rock and roll stars are destroying any chance for survival because you can't get truth to the people. They cut and cover it for movies and TV.

There's a universal consciousness that's always been held down by a bunch of educated idiots who call themselves teachers and schools. Uncle Jess wouldn't let me go to school. Do you know what having your own mind is in a world of programmed patterned robots? Having your own mind is total freedom, that's insanity. You go up to the doctor and tell him you're God, he looks at you like you're crazy. He doesn't even believe in God, that's why he's a shrink.

I am beyond the minds that have no soul, beyond what you're told, bought or sold.

Beatles were kids, 3 generations behind my mind.

Music comes from the soul. It's our god, our religion. They don't have the real music inside their souls. They're faking and jiving for someone's dollar bill or some fat girls' pussy.

I don't struggle for approval. I don't care what other people think. I do what I do for the spirit of the truth and what I know and believe in as my family.

You were a generation of children trying to get your humanity back, trying to get your honor back, trying to redeem your planet, trying to get your life back on earth and I was a convict trying to help you. That's all. I never said I was a good guy.

Everyone was free to do and go wherever. I never held anyone against their will for a second about anything. I never committed myself to anyone and never asked anyone to do likewise.

We have been redeeming what was wrong before our grandmothers were born.

(The swastika) is sun god symbol, symbol of sun as god, not a dead man on a stick, not a woman, but the energy we live in and beyond the energy we live in.

As I woke up I brought everybody at that ranch into the thought of one world, one mind, one peace on earth.

We were on a metaphysical level at ranch. We weren't living in nobody's clock. I haven't surrendered to nobody's nickel.

My mind is crime, my mind is prison.

I'm a lizard on a rock.

Have you ever been in a desert in the night and go out and look at all -- look in the sky? And look at all those stars and say, "What can I possibly have an idea about? How could I hold a mind up in face of that?" You know. We've got to clean the water up. Or there's going to be no water. We've got to clean the air up, or there's going to be no air. We've got to get off the trees, or there's going to be no air or water. We're taking our life support systems away. Let me say this. You walk 60 miles, it takes you three days. You get in a car, it takes you an hour. You don't realize how long 60 miles is. And how big a jet airplane travels through the sky, burning up all the atmosphere. And how fast you can get from California to England when it used to take us years and years. The world is a little place. The world is not a big place. Wake up. The world is a computer. The world is a spaceship.

Captain Marshall. Outlaw law. The real stories of the road. When you stand on the deck of a ship with the master there is no questions, ifs, ands, or buts. Life and death roll on the orders, a pirate ship much more so. As people in church movies and others have destroyed the ways of man, they have lost sight of the command, and it has lost its authority. I've been within this court for over 48 years. I watched WW1 and WW2 retired men work and retire the tiers of prison commands and the other men coming off the fields of honor where wars were fought. The fields of honor never change because it's God's laws that fight and kill. God takes and gives life and people have forgot that. Their self-importancies, role playing ego games have undermined their own need for order. Laws are tools to help men, not holes to hide lies and fear, coverups bought and sold for voters in some office; more money or more sex and has little to do with honor, law, or order.

I want to say this to every man that has a mind, to all the intelligent life forms that exist on this planet earth. I wish really to say this to the Scottish Rites, and the Masons and all the people with minds who have degrees of knowledge and are aware of courts, laws, United Nations, governments. In the Forties we had a war. And all of our economies went towards this war effort. The war ended, on one level, but we wouldn't let it end on the other levels. We kept buying and selling this war. I'm not locked in a penitentiary for crimes, I'm locked in the Second World War. I'm locked in the Second World War with this decision to bring to the world court, there must be one world court, or we're all going to be devoured by crime. Crime, and the definition of crime, comes from Nuremberg, when the judges decided that they wanted to call Second World War a crime. Honor and war is not a crime. When you go to war and you're a soldier and you fight for your god and your country, that's not criminal. That's honorable. That's what you must do to be a man. If you don't fight for your god and your country, you're not worth anything. If you have no honor, then you're not worth Patty's pig. Truth is, we've got to overturn the decision that you made in the Second World War, or the Second World War will never end. Decrees of the war were written in Switzerland, in Geneva, the conferences that were made, by the men at the tables, clearly stated that anyone in uniform would be given the respect of their rank and their uniforms. Then, when the United States won the war, and got all the Germans in handcuffs, they started breaking their own rules. And they've been breaking their own rules ever since. War is not a crime. But if you judge war as a crime, from a court room, then turn around. If two and three is five, then three and two is five. If you say war is a crime, then crime becomes your war. I am, by all standards, a prisoner of war. I have been a prisoner of war since 1944, in juvenile hall, for setting the school building on fire in Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been locked up 45 years trying to figure out how I got to be a criminal. It matters not whether I want to be.... You've got to keep criminals going to keep the war going because that's the economy. Your whole economy is based on war. You've got to get your dollar bills off the war, you got to take your silver markets sterling off the war. You've got to take your gold and your diamonds off the war. You've got to overturn that decision that hung six thousand men by the neck. You killed six thousand soldiers for obeying orders. That's wrong, and the world has got to accept they're wrong. If you accept, you're wrong, and you say you're sorry for all the things you've done, then I'll be a note in that chord, and maybe we can get some harmony going on this planet earth now.


Letters -

Forever is forever and anyone who wants to see into and put their mind and thoughts into forever can. You see a rock and understand the rock is not forever. You can see into the sky and all its stars and say that is forever. Cars, money, things are moving. The pillars or God's word symbols that thought travels on and with thoughts in the will of God is forever the mind. Something true is true forever even if we don't know what it is. We go through life and come to thoughts in sky's mind that are and have always been. Soul is forever. Life and death are games. Forever is no game. If you give your words into forever and sell them out by dropping them for reasons you justify, then your mind and heart is not in forever. Your life keeps on but when it ends and you must face your own knowing you know, and that won't let your soul into itself. The wheels of thought are held in forever. Your mind's brains can become aware of them, and you can come in and out of the temple of forever. It's not a judge. Our own thoughts do that. We alone effect our self. There is no one, no us, no we, unless we make it, redeem it, and come back in grace with truth. As I say, I don't judge it, it just is in nothing as nothing is forever as nothing is soul. The beyond, the Ansome. But one lie is like a wall. Like a space movie one lie and a force field goes up and forever and truth goes on and on without you. A real witch knows no one can catch her lying. No one but herself. Everything is perfection. Monks who are in forever say no women can hold points of view in forever because they have no soul, that their fear turns them to lie and hide from the real. I've just drove up on forever and feel it started with me so I'm just here. (Swastika)


Letter to someone in Georgia -

Dear Soul,

Explaining this (eagle and swastika) by Rosenbaum, I ask you do you feel Rosenbaum would write what's been said by other Baums, Blooms, and Bergers. Everyone says it for what's best for them and if there is money they will say and write anything. It took me a long time to realize I was lied to all my life and full of bunkum. It's not easy to forget yourself. Without my confusion and distorted points of view I didn't even exist. I wasn't even there. So I started over and started over and am still starting over. But at least I'm reborn in myself. They even taught me I was crazy if I was who I am for real and they taught me crazy was bad and my mind was in prison for over 48 years and then I became aware that it's all prison. Prison is a funny word. Most people don't even realize it started as a farm to give men a new rebirth chance. Christian justice has gone to money. I guess it's always been like that since the South lost a war. They lost our rights. It's just took me a while to wake up to the timeless ways of the mind and justice I got. My uncle's wife remarried a Captain in one of them pens in Ga. I came through there long ago. Hot but nice. I almost stayed. I left with a 1950 hot car, shot gun and a straw hat full of dimes from a stick up - back in the crazy days - I did 3 years for that. As you can see I'm just a unschooled hillbilly and it would take me more time to read this than I think it's worth. I don't like city schools or fancy people who can't feed themselves without a store - any man who can't feed himself, grow his own corn and make his own whiskey. I never change. I'll always be in the hills. The highland will always be in my soul. Good to hear from you. I'm not a letter writer, but your letter had soul. Charles Manson


April 27, 1994, letter to the CSP-Corcoran Classification Committee -

Some minds in the CDC - the undermining of your own systems.

A person will with their fears make up a whole lot of excuses and call them reasons and then try to pass them over into rules you keep down on someone with doubts, fears, and unsure. I'm kept in a cage and in handcuffs not for what I do as a person but because of the doubts and fears of the people who have destroyed their own laws, rules, and who will keep on to the death of their own. What you think is in you, and that's what makes you you. That's not me. When you tell me if I put my life on a line for and with you and I do what I say and you don't, then all that I have suffered for your word will come back in your thought. In your thought chamber your love for white people let the South African Mandela out and the black are coming from all over the world as your fear gives them rights that you won't even give your own children.

You have a lot of unreal thoughts in your own chambers. You keep hooking me up with Tex as if he's my man. He's his mother's boy and his dad was his mother's boy. He was trying to walk in my chambers, but he was too weak. What you want and need to think can be real but only to and for you and anyone you can put it over on. I went for all of it. Once I thought the judge and warden were my fathers and in a sense they were. Until they fed me to their fears and I learned that I had retired that committee well over 18 times since 1944 when I went within the judge's chambers and boys' schools. My mom was a 14-year-old street kid and her and my uncle, her brother ran away from home. At 17 she went to prison with my uncle and I visited them when I was just learning to walk. I've been in the prison chamber crime 6 generations. I'm 300 doctors with more time and experience than anyone in the world. And you people have treated me worse than I ever been treated. My shame for you is great. You're just your fear of black.

What I can't get your brain to understand is people are not as good or bad as you see and think them to be. That's only your thinking and has nothing to do with the real of hard times. Men beat each other over water. If there is survival at play its big dog. All the good is nice when you can afford it and the big game is play like you are a nice guy. Shit's like sugar to flies. When they can't drink your blood, they eat shit to live. You overworld people who live nice and easy don't see or know the real. The people who started "Kill the Pig and destroy the system" were only playing fear for the control of the system and they have moved into your uniforms, into your courts, on to your committees and the fear locks on your mind won't let yourself up.

I've spent over 45 years within the judges' chambers and believe me I do know what I know. I don't labor under nothing. Fear is the rule and the other side knows it. If I tell you some real from under you would run to show it to someone else to check out if it's approved of or believable or if I'm a lie or whatever doubts you show your wife or mother.

A lot of people know that all they need to do is help you keep me down because you won't go above that because I'm Manson. My dad's the graveyards of honor. The other gangs are rolling, you kept me in the hole a year for Cuba and now they don't even need papers. Puerto Rico and now Haiti is coming up in my pussy. It's hard to hold myself up within the body of my god when you keep cutting my man off and giving it to your fear. Black Muslims with white hats are pimps with white whores. Black women with white shoes are black whores with white tricks. Black people are sub-underworld people for long over 700 years. This will be the fifth wave of negro babies your system has been busing up your own children's ass. Negroes eat white people. Like wolves eat dogs. People like the people who worked this hallway have created an impasse. Before you were born they created thoughts and procedures that cut themselves in half. If you give your ass to your fear you have broken your breeding circle and on fast forward a few generations of Africa in your pussy destroys you as you are your father's son and your son is you as much as you let your children live. So far you have worked 25 years destroying your own family in Manson.

Bottom line is you can't let your own self up because you fucked yourself around for so long you can't forgive yourself, and each day you keep yourself locked up you are destroying your own. That sounds crazy without an explain, but it's the end of one justice and the start of another. If you think there is anyone outside your own, you're mad. The cop who was in the room says he's German but he's not. He works for the DA. That's the dago street gangs of Rome. He's a dago on a witness program. I had an Irish judge and that was my son. The dago was an underworld brother that sold out for my money.

C. Manson


1994 letter -

I've tried without luck to talk to someone in the state of California. From 1944 Boys home of the Irish monks to 1967 I was a homeless kid looking up to the retired vets from WWI - WW2 and the wars. I retired the staff from the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's. I've been in the body of the judges' robes. When I went to court in the state of California I tried to explain that my word was good, and I had kept the word of my God, father, family, monk, church, Grandad WW I and Dad WW I. But they wanted to buy and sell what the public wanted. Nixon's court fell through my US court room.

I worked work furlough garbage truck at Fort MacArthur in San Pedro, California and Coast Guard USN at Terminal Island, California.

When your PA (Program Administrator) says no to me you are doing nothing. If I reflect or try to explain you think it's me personally, and it's not me as a person, it's me as a world court. I've been a judge in the convicts' court ever since the 1940's, it's called the MAC, named after the Scotland's rights Mason and high orders of church in my world, my life, my right. When the system's men were raising me I thought you PAs, AWs, wardens were my dads. Family. I only knew what you all taught me. You on one foot and the old cons on the other. Now that I've grown up the people now days don't like me because I've grown up and know I am a man now. You won't let me be a man. When you say no to me you are saying no to all the men who raised me. I told you I broke no law. That's your law, your rights. Right, honor, court, money, your world, family, self, state, country. You told me before I retired you the 6th time that not knowing the law is no excuse. Now after 45 years I say to you: Each lie I've been told and each day I've been held will balance itself in my ghost, shadow, life, world, my CIA, my government, my grandad's grave, my cross, my church.

I don't like to tell you what's coming because you may think that's what I'm projecting. I may think the sun came out but I'm not burning it, and if I say looks like rain, I'm not making it rain. The people who been using me and my life to hold their fears and keep me as their reality in order to feel sure -- I say, nothing in God's law goes unseen.

I got no one who understands or cares what a white man goes through - the beatings, the forced drugs, the burning, the lies, and people taking my music, my kids, my life. All the people who don't want to be white and live in fear of other races push the fear and bad off on me like it's OK and they won't be held or judged for what they been doing to me and my own. They don't realize it's them. They are white like it or not. No one helps the white man. They may help the white woman, but only to use her sex.

When I tell you people you say it's me that's prejudiced and it's not that way. I am a reflection. Bottom line is not to prejudge is almost impossible because it's nature to be for self-first and look out for number one - your own life, and if that's not what you look out for your prey and food for who is eating you.

25 years should show you who's helped the white Manson family. NO ONE, and the white women with half black babies have been killing us with their fears and judgments.

Read this well and with your life: People play act and spend years to fool you that they care. It is true that without the grace of God there is no sin that man will not commit. Each day you all have kept me locked up without my rights comes off my life, and my life has always been yours because I was raised by and inside the US government. They still run the prison yards on the games that I played and set on the yards. Don't think that I boast or brag. But you realize this word I put on paper and this life I lived is now in forever. What I say will keep on and on as far as it goes. I tried to explain to the court. Try to understand this: I retired the warden of Fort Leavenworth, Kansas Section 8 Big Top USN, US Servicemen brotherhood to the cross from the basketball and weight lifting bar, barbershop, and I ran the underworld. Before I came to the state death row I told you all over and over I did not break the law. I just got out of the US prison in 1967. No one will listen and no one will stop and try to understand what I'm saying, and you won't look at 1969 the USA was 20 cents for gas and 20 cents for a pack of Pall Malls. I told you I'm your money, government, will. I held the USA for my WW I and WW II dads and the state of California has 25 years of destroying 1. their money, 2. their courts, 3. their money.

I tell you again: I got out in 1967 after retiring you all 4 times over and got out in 1967 and only the preacher was in the parking lot under the tower. The Irish monks of Boys home beat my ass and taught me to fight, play ball, keep true and I'm still in truth with them and the truth knows itself. Look at what 25 years in prison has shown you. How much more do you know now, and then look at this Manson, he's been 7 days a week, 24 hours a day for over 45 years. I'm millions of men old. I'm not school, but I'm not all the way dumb. 25 years each time I work a thought to where I can live in it, you or people like you take it, lie to me, cut me out of my own thoughts, give my shoes to the black because you fear the Mexicans or give my glasses to the Mexicans because you're in fear of black, and you've had me going back and forth giving my woman's pussy, my children, my rights, my life away to your fears and you have used me up and I keep crying and yelling and telling you it's your life, your God, your cross, your world, and you keep judging yourself in me. I've been Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush and you know you and your two case workers played Clinton and Gore off my grass lawn mower. You think because I'm mental retarded and unschooled that I am less a man. I spent over 22 years learning law and truth by men of honor in the prison and the staff just DID NOT LIE, they were like dads. Now for 25 years in the state of California prisons I've not been told the truth once. I had never been disrespected as much in all the places I been before. I speak English means I don't get rights. If I'm white, I'm just used by the white cops. This will be the 4th time you white people have let everyone else OUT and kept us so you could start over. That would be cool if you started over in truth for self in true. But you do the same old lie that when it destroys my life it's yours also.

C. Manson


1996 letter -

"Why is the button on your shirt not buttoned?" "I didn't know it was a rule." "That's no excuse. You are out of line and you got a smart-ass attitude." "No, I'm not a smart ass." "Are you calling me a liar? Well, I'm putting you on report and I'm telling the next shift how you talked back to me and called me a liar." Shift change, "Well, boy, I hear you got yourself a smart-ass attitude and you been disobeying the rules and I'm gonna give you extra work to do." Others see this falling over on you and they see a place where they can get off on someone else so it's someone else saying "Well, man why don't you brush your teeth, you smell bad." Everyone gets off on the last because they see they can get away with it. Chickens get off on weaker chickens and people are not as smart. Everyone picks off on someone. There are chambers in reforms schools and dark halls where only twisted egos rule over the minds of children who don't know any difference and a great chance is that they will be used all their lives and never know what or why they are always being judged. Not by a few, but by everyone. When there was still Negroes, they were in what I called the slave mind. The slave mind was a mind's brain raised up and used to take the blame and be all the wrong. When anything went wrong, or blame was order the slave was the blame and it was just a way of life to be under everyone and looking out for everyone as being born slave. It's the only way you can survive because there IS NO MIND space. Everything goes to 7 steps, 7 levels, 7 chambers and sec. 8 was crazy and only God could understand the death and suffering from someone who was born to give and be all. Where all the unborn eggs wait in death before birth, beyond good evil right wrong. Where nothing you do can ever be right and you must learn to live but not be in the mind of anyone lest they judge themselves over on you. First you learn to fight and blame others. Then you see that's a web for the most part started in motion by someone who already died to make that judgment. Most don't know they die for their own judgments destroy them. All they become is their own judgments and that's a circle of games. The real is God's judgment and to hook with that is you become the judge and the real judge just let's it judge itself in the 7 and keeps the 8 setting as nothing but honor. 48 years under the blame and being all the wrong I keep bumping into Hitler and Mussolini and all the bad evil spirits of the ways all the good people keep projecting blame, fear, guilt and over all the negative as they see. Most of that is programmed patterns of lies from past and karma of all that calls itself good.

Most people don't realize what I've put forth in the last 25 years. Because they don't live in their own minds. 25 years ESP with 3000 men is 25 years x 3000 = That's a very big person. I got 25 x 3000 = before but in the mind of honor & forever is like - + = world of mind = the laws must come from survival of life. Life first. Then all the order that that means NOT for people, that's a no center. All life forms must be in a center balance. Making laws to save or redeem people won't help redeem shellfish or snails and that may end up the end of people also. How to see so deep under the minds of people. Look at trees as people who never move or speak and spiders as eyes inside the mind of God with zoos and pure thought of all that is. The people games are unreal to the real even if they are real games they are not within the real's real that rolls wheels outside money. When everything you do is wrong and nothing you ever say is real or true. When you are totally and completely full of shit. Everyone is looking for reasons to find you wrong or crazy or sick or dead. Everyone is trying to beat you at something or get over on you or get off on you and if you see and say they call it paranoia. At the same time their system is all built on winning, beat someone, run with the ball, kick the dogs, etc. I never lived in that world because I never been good enough to be a person. That's why your kind of world can't judge me because I've been the courtroom all the way back before the lies and games covered and destroyed the honor. Nature's ways are with honor. Without honor and truth, you can't have order. A play on order to make up a movie is a play, a game. You can keep making 50,000,000 rules a day and without the authority to move the dispensation through to a procedure of righteousness, majesty, honor, and all that stuff that died in past wars and live in forever. 30 years ago, I started into forever and everyone called me crazy and when I said ATWA I was a complete nut. Now the TV said they were doing all I thought in the 1964 and no matter what I thought others who had doctorate recognized university and I could never raise above a bug. If Germans are trying to survive as a little girl moral cross good. That's the game that's already in motion. Anti-Christ and taking crosses down and crucifying all who take my life may save some bugs. One army can do the will needed. You can pass a law that says no porno on computers, and they will make another side and play laws says you can. My way would be to go crucify and hang a note saying "ATWA or go to your dead God". ATWA is like a ship and as it comes into the contingencies where life is alone and strategic awareness comes through play into a no game reality then my authority will be the kind of creationism of theocracy. I can say it but writing it is another play. It's like this also: The need has its head on fire running covered with blood and people don't see what they don't want to see. So, 1/3 got to go and even then they are too big for a God. No one can be God if everyone wants to be God. Only when they accept me as God can they be God. As soon as I say it everyone else will run to say they are God. But they don't even have a bug on earth. I DO. As chicken head people -- a guy was burning the feelers off the cockroach, and I told him "Stop" and I picked up the bug and got burned up in its place and took him out of the fire and off the wheel of people's misusing that level of life. I can set it going and coming and what people think means less and less because it's distorted patterns for money circles and not even on earth. Be me, get in my image and be God all you must do is be true. I don't want to be anything but alive. Games are gone from my minds space. One day is all and we got 1000 years to get it right. ATWA is order. MacM

How can you judge someone who's already been judged the worst and all the bad? There is no other thing you say that's not just the same old thing. But all that's in a movie and a game. My court still holds the real. I got a trial coming. MacM

PS - If I don't ever put on a defense the courtroom of Manson stands forever. I got a foot in either way. No defense, no mercy, just a mirror. I've tried to explain it's not me as a self it's me as a life and there is only one. Mac


May 1996 letter -

Hi, No way -- You can never be right. No one will ever let you or anyone be right. If you go or do one way the other way don't like you and say they want, you dead for doing and going that way. If you go the other way the other way will say no no you're wrong and want you dead. The truth is they are all lying and going one way and saying it's the other and the only real way right is dead because wars that were fought with and in honor used up all the real good and honor died and cowards and lies were left over and they teach the kids lies and they are destroying life on earth and we tried to let the people see and know but the actors wouldn't let us and the Rock and Roll singers wanted to be seen and the preachers wanted to say the glory and l0% was their money and they always sacrificed the love for money and kept god dead.

There was a chance to save it and we were locked up in the cages and that went by and there is no chance to save it; then we thought we could redeem it but the negroes wanted to be white god and have say so and be all they never got to be and all the schools and teachers said no way would they let anyone know more or say more than them because they were the ones who must be and hold all the smart and have the say so over what's real and they wanted to be the ones to say and after they could understand then they would say it and they never understood anything unless it was in a book and had been said by the dead and proven to the people who never approve of anything and they teach sex by saying never do it it's so wonderful you can have sex after you're dead. Heaven is only after you're dead- on and on and-on-and paper is a waste of trees.

We tried to leave you a world and lost ours and spent our lives waiting for you to grow up and didn't understand how they brainwash you and tell you we are bad and that makes people bad and then they kill them for killing them after they teach , preach and show movies and T.V. teaching and telling them to be bad so they can feed on them. Anyone and everyone that was true with honor died in wars gone and I've been locked up ever since I was l0 years old working off the blame as did my mom a run away l4 year old from World War One and as soon as we work it off they lie on us, cheat us and they get killed and others get killed and they make movies and tell more lies and the media gets rich and they build more prisons and the money rabbit just eats us and they get drunk on our blood and no one grows up, we just become aware and then they fear us. The more wrong they do us the more they fear us and hate us and in truth there is no one in real. Money slaves are not human. Charles Mac Manson Don't write me. I believe no one. I know you are a fake.


Bug letter -

To write I must slow my mind down. I'm not human in my ways of thought and I don't want to be programmed by schools of thought. what man is or what man is not, woman etc. "Nature" has a balance. I want it like a hunger. I learn a universe in a look, a flash. I could slow down and spell the word over and over until it hangs in my thought pattern and holds little bits and pieces of power. I try to clear all patterns out of my mind to where I can become a tree or woods, a mountain, a world, a universe. Sparks in my mind become the only pattern I crave.

Suffering is -- is not. Could be or a balance of is. Little thoughts A woman suffers at childbirth and gives to it. It's just an experience. Ying and Yangs of personal playing people. You accept and reject whatever is best for whatever point you are on. Some minds may go through great big balances for deep thought and others wave a hand and say it backwards. Shiva does it in a dance.

I lived with a bug for 17 years. Everyone hated this bug and said it was no good and bad. It had no eyes, no ears and lived its life on feeling, alone in the dark, no help, no claws, no fangs, no defenses A helpless little bug. I watched it and thought how can this life form find any joy, why would life want to live. No one teaches it, they don't play 'watch momma and learn'. It's all go for what you feel. Everyone and everything is out to destroy you -- spiders and other bugs will eat you and humans are at war on you. I learned more from that bug than I did from my whole life before.

I fell in love with another fife form. That bug could feel what I thought. I set for years with no books, no TV, no radio -- nothing but a candle and making things with strings and toilet paper. So, I've had a lot of time to spend with this bug doing just what it does.

For 5 years I couldn't think why I did some of the things it does. Then I began to see into its world. We have a word for God. The bug is all he knows he is. All from where that bug thinks. Leaves grow on trees,,, shellfish, are born and grass grows, and snails are, we think we think from our brains. In my sleep -- half sleep, I'll pick a spider off my face, roll it up perfect and set it on the floor and wake up to see it unhurt. If I tried to do it thinking, I would have broken its legs. The night I had the fight with the guy who said he whipped 7 cops, and I put him in the barrel without a thought -- I've transcended the heads of earth people for 5,000,000 years. I've touched down in places with thoughts never before. I am in a lot of bodies doing lots of things and I never had any real control over or under much.

Look you well, I try to be what I want, and I got everyone that wants me to be a killer. They torment me to be that. Each time I get a chance to kill someone and don't, all the others say quack quack duck. He ain't shit. They want blood, they want death. They are locked to the T.V. A guy went to the visiting room picked a baby up and knocked its head off. The parents told him they forgive him and that they were sorry and he's outside now killing whoever he wants. I should have gone with Green and Yellow and after they killed whoever they wanted; I should not have let anyone touch the bodies. All they (public) wanted to do was feed on the dead bodies. I should have left them for the flies.

People who are doing the killing, if they write rat notes, they are given their own police force to boss in some little town and they get a new name and new game. It's the people who try to be and do right that suffer because they need them for show. Tex may wake up that their people he works for in church will keep him all his life because they feel free to buy and sell the fear he makes for the blood sale.

I've seen some people who were on the row for killing, get out and kill again, come back for killing get out and come back. I said they sure must be killing the right people.

When you deal with people who won't pay you your dues, they will lie and cheat and give the ass (sex) of your children to their fears. The only thought created in my head is they want you to be a killer and kill them. If you are a good and real servant, you will give them what they want. Someone says to you "Dont hit me!" You say "I wasn't thinking of hitting you " and they say, "You're going to kill me!" and you say; "No, I don't want to kill you." Upon that they hit you and knock you down and say, "Yes you are a killer". Someone puts a knife in your hand and says "Kill him or we will kill you" and he says, "Do it and you throw the knife down and they yell, "See we made him put the knife down. I'm Manson's man and he's a bitch and I made him put the knife down." You say "You didnt make make me do nothing, I put it down because I hold thought circles and chambers far beyond you, me, I, them, and they. I hold the dispensation of life and death in truth and all the people who took life can live in me because I took no life. So they take my stuff and lie some more and take my guitar and it keeps falling on me to kill. I'm the mirror and I don't want to reflect but they think I'm their out. Out to them is to die and they want out.

I can't find anyone with half a brain about anything. I get more from a deaf, and dumb bug than the whole state of California. The U.S. Prisons were retired service personnel and a lot of them were at the least part of life. Here it is worse than the nut wards. They make crazy and madness up.

Check this hard. If I never leave the cell, this is the thought the C.D.C is creating. Because the world needs killers. I've set in thoughts so deep and strained out with sweat and millions of people running through my mind dying and being born; the fear so thick others can't even walk past my cell. If everything you seen was gone tomorrow, no one would notice. It was only as big as our minds. If World War I was a tear out of one eye and World War II, a tear out of the other eye and I was all the pyramids and all the Pharroahs, Greeks, and the peak of China at its best, it wouldn't touch just what pollution is created by jets. To stop oil, money, lumber, and put 5O hundred million people in line with a new lifestyle with no waste in the air or water.... In the 1960's I was reacting to a world I seen so little of. I learned that one little misunderstanding about 1776 or one thought you believed that came from some other center can put your ship on the rocks. You must be 100% reborn and believe nothing. That's not easy to do just within the inner self much less deal with the world and OVER ALL money and overall heads that ever were in ALL time -- all graves.

The only thing that some people got going is to down anyone who got anything going. They will play big trying to make others little. They will pull everyone down to make themself look big. Others will step on, bash, kick, bite -- anything it takes to save a job. They would lose their life before they would lose their job because without the job they are nothing as dead. Others would do much the same if not more to save their face with wedding rings and jobs and lose their TREES AND WATER, AIR AND LAND. It's like the phony Christian says "You must do all I say before god will accept you, you must do all we say before you can live". You can try to explain it is their life also and they say, "Are you threatening me?" So, I just go on and threaten them out front because anything I say or do has become a threat to lies and a threat to anyone who wants to die. Check it, If you say do this or do that and you will die, they stick their faces out and run to it. In San Quentin there was a saying that if you killed everyone on one shift and layed their bodies in the parking lot, the next shift would climb over their bodies coming to work.

No, there is a lot of people got to die and when I say lot -- lot is not a big enough word. Hitler was a saint, an angel in comparison. I don't want this job.

I'm put in the box woman kept me in for 20 years for the unsure yesterdays, plays, books, mean looks, etc.

True, we think the world but so do the people who left behind what they created like sidewalks, lampposts telephone poles, cement, schools, armies, governments and lots of people dead but still walking and having an effect on earth and on others if there is such a thing it is truly in the mind- not my mind or your mind but THE mind and that is in forever's Chamber. They are not thinking in forever, they are playing for one life time because one needs to be in and out of prison a few times to see behind the faces of life and death.

What the brain wants and needs to thank in it's patterns is not always right and true in the real but it may fit what we want to call or be right and true. You may see death and suffering as real and to your ego, it is the realest real. Then after you suffer it all and die a few times you realize; thats only stages that roll wagon wheels or levels of brick to build a Circle within the endless. A thought can last 2000 years, 5000 years that's maybe right for the people who played live and die within that time stage, but one thought can melt it like butter and in 2 days can be another thought. It is always changing. At times a little thing will go by, and I'll say nothing and later it's a big thing.

One little thought can change billions of thoughts. Christ spent 3 days on his cross. You spent 10 years on ours. I realize that no one knows all the whys and ins and outs of the whole thing and paper words won't hold it.

All I can say is keep faith and it will balance out. It may be another 10 or 100 years and we only got 25 but it was the only chance. You gave your love and life to a cause.

Born into a puzzle -- a piece at a time and few ever seen the whole thing and how can you tell or yell to 3 corners of the universe from one corner saying "Hey! There are 4 corners to this wheel and because of people's loss of faith and I only got 3 when I had 4."

Do you see that youse were the hearts I was dreaming in the 1950's and 40's. Beatniks and how they turned to hippy and how hippy turned to yippy etc. Can you see the wheel of humans? Some die and others go to prison but the motions and what you see stays on all sides.

Ask yourself what do you do when someone is holding you with a gun and they are not obeying the rules or laws. At what point does the outlaw become the law to survive? Good day

Men want to die for their wives and moms because they can't fuck and women who never fucked and fear love, love fear circles sucking on circles wasting time for nothing.

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